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Post by ariennye on Jul 28, 2005 7:04:44 GMT
I mostly guess about where things go but i really don't where all these little things go at?
these little things always have me confuse as to where an when to put them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2005 7:09:16 GMT
I mostly guess about where things go but i really don't where all these little things go at? these little things always have me confuse as to where an when to put them. ; ' " , for ; I have no clue...usually MS Word nags me if I use a komma instead of this whatsit called..... A komma.......imagine reading the phrase you've written aloud. Generally, a komma is placed where the reader needs to draw breath <in my experience anyway> otherwise...I have no idea...also a pause in a phrase I suppose. the double apostrophe " is used for speech. like: "Why hello," Michael said, as he approached the cadets, "how are you all doing?" As you see, I've also placed komma's there to improve readability.
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Post by ariennye on Jul 28, 2005 7:31:48 GMT
thanks for the info
yeah but how do you know when use them an where to put them at?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2005 7:56:26 GMT
thanks for the info yeah but how do you know when use them an where to put them at? If I may, I'll use your post to the quiet bakery thread which you've posted just now. My corrections shall be in lime green. Any comments shall be in orange, aswell as any additions. My comments are by no means meant as critizism, merely as pointers. Ariennye look ed the officer ."Thank you lieutenant."
A phrase always starts with a capital, and ends with a full stop. In this case, you also used speech, which is always put down between the double ". When you write addressing a person with their rank, write their ranks in full. However when you write referring to them without using speech you can use the abbreviations. It just makes things a little easier to read.
Ariennye begain her search for a seat finding one and smirks cockly at finding a seat then sitting down an begain to look at her schedule: use : here Administration Weapons: Phasers Unarmed Combat (or specialized unarmed combat type) Computer Operation Computer Programming Electronics Operations: Sensors Electronics Operations: Transporters First Aid History: Federation Language: (Federation Standard) Language: (any non-native) Law: Federation Mathematics Physics Pilot: Shuttlecraft Starfleet Protocol Vacc Suit Operations Xenobiology: General Xenology: General Zero-G Operations
However as there's an emergency going on....Joan should've written an invitation to come along to wherever I had sent her.....or you could come with me and whoever I tagged to come with me...in addition you could choose to go with Doctor Black. I'll have a go at writing something soon...I'm trying to get a grad report done between things *chuckles*
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Post by ariennye on Jul 28, 2005 17:56:04 GMT
I don't get it whats the orange an green for an how will this explain when an where to put things at i am still confused ?
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Post by jared on Jul 29, 2005 16:34:22 GMT
That post you just made already looks better with the simple addition of the capital and the punctuation. Don't type slang into out of speech parts, your post should read like this: 'I don't get it, what's the orange and green for and how will this explain when and how to put things? I am still confused.' Compare the post Sonak just made and your bakery one that it was taken from and observe the differences, then ask back on what you don't understand.
Also, forget semi-colons (these things ; ) since they are not a necessary part of punctuation and you can make yourself understood well enough without them. Explaining their use is too complicated to do on a message board.
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Post by Karynn McCormick on Jul 30, 2005 8:48:39 GMT
; - is a semi-colon. You use it when you could use a period (or 'full stop' as Sonak has called it) but want to continue and idea or statement.
Example: Whether or not there was a conscious Cardassian to see it, she wanted to send a clear signal; she’d die before giving up control of her bridge again.
In the example above, I could have easily used a period but instead, I used the semi-colon since the ideas in both sentences related to each other.
A single ' is used as an apostrophe or it can be used to set off quotes or it can be used in a contraction. Apostrophes show possession.
Example of an apostrophe: It was Kay's book and she wanted to keep it.
The book belongs to Kay so the apostrophe shows possession.
Example of using ' as a quote: She was always fond of saying, 'live and let live'.
In the above example, the ' is setting off a quote from an outside or well-known source.
Example of a contraction: I can't make it work. It won't turn on. I didn't think it would and yelling at me isn't making it easier.
The words can't, won't, didn't and isn't are all contractions. They are shortened forms of cannot, would not, did not and is not. There are many more contractions than what I've listed here.
As Sonak said, " are quotation marks and are used to set apart dialogue or speaking within the story.
Example: “Everything we need to know is down there,” Kay said barely above a whisper, a frown furrowing her face.
The words between the " marks are meant to be spoken by the character. If it's not meant to be spoken words, then " shouldn't be used.
, is a comma and they do things like set apart items in a list, separate two or more adjectives and divide multiple thoughts within a sentence.
Example of using the comma to separate items within a list: The armory stored phasers, phaser rifles, sonic grenades and many different styles of body armor.
In the sentence above, all the items are separated by commas. Notice that the last item in the list (sonic grenades) does NOT need a comma. Any item coming before the and does not need a comma after it.
It is proper to separate multiple adjectives with commas.
Example: The swift, brown fox makes a dash for his warm, dark den.
The words swift and brown are both adjectives (words that describe the noun... in this case, the fox). Two or more adjectives are separated by a comma. (the two adjectives warm and dark are also separated by a comma.) Also notice that there's no comma in between the final adjective and the noun. (In other words, you don't place a comma in between the words brown and fox.
You can use a comma when you are setting apart several ideas within a sentence or adding information that describes a subject.
Example: Kay, being a shy person, never liked the limelight.
In the example above, additional information about the subject (Kay) is set apart within commas.
You will also need to use a comma after the words such as however, although, since, yet and because.
Example(s): Although she was shy, Kay was a good leader. However, she didn't seek to be the center of attention. Since she was very shy, Kay often retreated to her quarters. Because of this, she seldom went to social functions. Yet, she had many friends.
The examples above are commas placed where a natural pause would be when someone is speaking.
Last but not least, a . is called a period and will always come at the tail end of any sentence. When you are finished with your thought, place a period at the end. After the period, your next sentence will begin with a captial letter. <--- Just as in this sentence, I began with a capitalized letter A on the word After.
Phew! I hope I've helped! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2005 18:03:44 GMT
Hey I actually learned something here too Though a very silly question now...you spoke of nouns.....but I can never tell the difference between a verb and a noun, as I can't translate them properly. In addition, if ; is a semi-colon, then does that make this : a colon? (silly question, I know) For those that might think "huh must she ask?" Yeah I do, I'm not an english speaking native, and I learn as much from this thread as any other person, even if I try to help people on my part
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Post by Loskene on Jul 30, 2005 23:52:26 GMT
Hope you don't minding me stepping in ":" <----That is a colon. As for verbs and nouns...A noun is something that is a person, place or thing. As in "Mary will run to the park." In bold is a noun since The park is a place. There are also pronouns, which are used when proper names are applied " Mary will run to the park.. In bold is the Pronoun, Mary. Now, verbs are extremely important. Verbs describe an action. "Mary will run all the way to the park.. The verb in this is in bold, since it is describing an action. There are many different types of verbs. Adverbs (Verbs with -"ly") at the end, and Past, present and future tense verbs...I would go into all of that but I got to go.
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Post by Kaylana Cornette on Jul 31, 2005 6:09:45 GMT
Erm... pronouns are actually used in the place of a noun. Some examples of pronouns are he, she, it, her, him, they, their, our, your, etc. Mary in the Commodore's sentence is a proper noun (a name is always a noun). At least it was when I went to school back in the dark ages! lol!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2005 10:37:18 GMT
Erm... pronouns are actually used in the place of a noun. Some examples of pronouns are he, she, it, her, him, they, their, our, your, etc. Mary in the Commodore's sentence is a proper noun (a name is always a noun). At least it was when I went to school back in the dark ages! lol! Which commodore? And now I'm even more confused! How does one call the picking apart of a sentence? In dutch we call this "ontleden" wich translates back "dissecting"........and I wouldn't know where to begin explaining this process in english! *heck I hardly remember how to in dutch much less german anymore!*
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Post by Loskene on Jul 31, 2005 19:40:58 GMT
Erm... pronouns are actually used in the place of a noun. Some examples of pronouns are he, she, it, her, him, they, their, our, your, etc. Mary in the Commodore's sentence is a proper noun (a name is always a noun). At least it was when I went to school back in the dark ages! lol! Which commodore? And now I'm even more confused! How does one call the picking apart of a sentence? In dutch we call this "ontleden" wich translates back "dissecting"........and I wouldn't know where to begin explaining this process in english! *heck I hardly remember how to in dutch much less german anymore!* Yeah, that's what I meant, proper noun ;D ;D I hope I didn't cause too much confusion, but a trail of confusion appears to follow me wherever I go. Feel free to delete my post if you wish. Don't worry, I'm so used to being called Commodore that sometimes even I forget!
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Post by ariennye on Jul 31, 2005 22:10:17 GMT
Well now i more confuse then i was before. I think i will guess where to put things at if i get things wrong well at least i tried.
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Post by jared on Jul 31, 2005 22:28:35 GMT
Hey, that last post was a good one. Only two things wrong. One is that the pronoun 'I' is always in capitals, even if it is not at the start of a sentence. Therefore, 'i am more confused' becomes 'I am more confused' Also, you need to put break of some sort between 'at' and 'if' in that last post. So 'I think I will guess where to put things at if I get things wrong well at least I tried' becomes either: 'I think I will guess where to put things at. If I get things wrong well at least I tried' or (note use of semi colon here) 'I think I will guess where to put things at; if I get things wrong well at least I tried' or (even a comma although not strictly correct makes it easier to understand) 'I think I will guess where to put things at, if I get things wrong well at least I tried' Whichever you find easiest. Besides that, you had the capitals at the start, the period in the right place and the vital space after the period that some people forget. So well done on that.
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Post by ariennye on Aug 3, 2005 4:34:43 GMT
thanks well if 'I keep this up I will have a swelled head for sure. lol'
how this?
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Post by jared on Aug 3, 2005 13:49:52 GMT
You don't need the speech marks in your post since I was showing you an example by quoting. I use the apostrophe ( ' ) to show speech as opposed to the double speech marks ( " ), but most people seem to use the double.
So removing the speech marks from that post, it's easily understood. All you are missing are the capitals at the start of sentences.
If you'd like any further help such as when and how to use speech marks and when to use paragraphs then I'll be happy to help, especially since for ease of reading for non-Anglo-Saxons, paragraphs are often abused on this site.
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Post by Paikea Apirana on Aug 26, 2005 23:19:00 GMT
If any of the new cadets need help, I"m willing to help even though your the competition
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Post by gabbrile on Dec 2, 2005 7:35:51 GMT
I need help with where an when to put comma's an so an so forth.
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Post by ONE on Dec 2, 2005 9:02:40 GMT
I can answer that. The purpose of a comma is to add a short break in the middle of a sentence. If a period is a stop light for your writing, then a comma would be a yield sign -- no need to stop, just slow down before continuing.
Therefore, we use a comma in one of three places. First, like I have used so far, is to set off a portion of a sentence. This could be merely a single word as in the first two sentences in this paragraph. Or it could be a longer phrase (called a "clause"), such as in this sentence.
Second, it can be used to form what is called a "compound sentence." That's when you take two short sentences and string them together with a comma and a conjuction (joining word, e.g. and, or, but) replacing the period. Example: "I like pizza. You like ice cream." --> "I like pizza, and you like ice cream." OR "I like pizza, but you like ice cream." See?
The third use of commas is in lists. Example: "I like pizza, ice cream, and chocolate milk." (I'm gonna make myself sick if I eat them all at the same time, tho, lol.)
Did that make sense and answer your question?
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Post by charlotteboissey on May 18, 2006 1:31:35 GMT
Hi everyone. I've already posted this one for a gain of time but I'm always curious about mistakes I'm making. So feel free to point those for me.
Charlotte could only rely on the few instructions she had been given when she departed from Earth Starfleet Academy and when she arrived on the starbase. She knew she had to report her arrival at the base and to duty to a senior officer.
She had of course once study this type of starbase, its specificities and its decks map but for the moment she had to check on the closer computer board where the office, she was to report to, was located. She did the same for the quarters she was assigned to.
Her luggage was not so large. Just a few off-duty clothes for comfort and personal social events – but she doubted she would use those before a while -, her personal work files – biological thesauruses, personal thesis, as well as Starfleet procedures guides which were the most complicated of the lot as far as she was concerned – and some books and jazz records for leisure. A handful of data chips was well enough for her comfort except for her family and friends.
She dropped her personal things on her quarters’ bed, and then headed to the office. She paid very little attention to people she passed by, her head still full of her journey from Earth and the stress from this new start of her career. She had signed on to leave her desk studies and make them from first hand data, but this implied a new challenge as Starfleet didn’t ask only science skills but also military abilities, and that was a big challenge. Charlotte stopped in front of the door and drew a deep breath. She pushed the button by the door which will make her presence know and waited to be let in.
When she was told so she opened the door and stepped in.
- Cadet Charlotte Boissey reporting for duty sir/ma’am (ooc : didn’t know who I would face).
She was very careful, as usual, to speak with a rather British accent, by mean to be accurate when speaking a language, but her native French accent was still detectable if you paid attention.
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Post by ONE on May 24, 2006 14:21:40 GMT
Overall very good grammar, cadet. The second paragraph had a couple minor errors. Corrections noted in red:
She had of course once studied this type of starbase, its specificities and its decks map, but for the moment she had to check on the closer computer board where the office she was to report to was located (removed 2 commas). She did the same for the quarters she was assigned to.
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Post by isis on May 27, 2006 8:09:28 GMT
hey what do you americans use for mathamatical symbols?
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Post by Max Richards on Jun 7, 2006 18:57:02 GMT
I wanted to know if somebody has some good English-Spanish-English translator. I am using one but, it is very incomplete.
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Post by crystal on Jun 7, 2006 19:06:36 GMT
I'm afraid I don't know of one, but one thing that might help for writing posts is after you translate them to english run them through again for spanish, and then try to fix anything you see that obviously doesn't make sense...I'm not sure if that's all that helpful, but I've used that method, and it seems to work better than just going through once.
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Post by fthelev on Jun 7, 2006 19:43:19 GMT
there's a translator programme called 'Babylon' you can download different dictionaries for it. As with most programmes you need a license for this. Here's the url, www.babylon.com, you can download a free trial there, and some additional dictionaries and other cool glossaries. ---Some content removed by the Academy Commandant---
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