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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2006 20:08:16 GMT
and elron theres no cost on S47 lol
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Post by Elron on Dec 22, 2006 21:40:01 GMT
Remind me to show you how much the Second Fleet spends on repairing its starships! I'm getting a reputation amongst the other SF Fleet Commanders, and it's largely thanks to the USS Vesuvius, lol. ;D
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Post by raleva on Dec 23, 2006 4:36:44 GMT
Haha ... I wonder why Starfleet keeps giving S47 brand new starships ... they are just going to get blown up ... *thinks back to her first mission on the Nevada* ... yea ... blown up.
They should start giving them previously mothballed constitutions and galaxies ... it makes more fiscal sense really ... lol.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2006 16:01:16 GMT
oh, but its only a game lol
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Post by jared on Jan 3, 2007 14:41:45 GMT
Here's an idea that I'm incorporating into my ship, multi-layer shielding. The basic idea is that the ship would have two shields, an inner and outer (or more if you want) and if they happen to fire on the frequency that your outer shield resonates at, then it will go through to the second layer and hit that layer instead of your ship directly. And I know firing is a problem, but if you set up a system to have all layers match frequency when firing, then it won't be a problem. What do you think of that idea? Still has the same weakness that the shields match frequency at one point and the phaser beams are long enough firing that the enemy could exploit the advantage too much. Try putting your phasers on raised platforms that rise above the inner shield, which would be very close to the hull, but remain below the outer one. The inner shield could be multi-phasic and the outer one, if penetrated as Enterprise's was in Generations, would only open up the phasers to attack. Downside would be that the energy drain would be so much that speed would be massively reduced or life support would have to be turned off for the duration (don't forget that the air lasts for a long time before it needs to be recycled). Just make sure you remember to turn it back on again.
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Post by isis on Jan 5, 2007 18:06:03 GMT
We could use those funny ones in Bridge Commander that the Sovereign gets (unless they are the ones we are talking about).
Or better still, depending on the regulations, use nukes. Starfleet used them in the past.
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Post by munro on Jan 5, 2007 21:26:41 GMT
lol, isis im not sure nukes are used by starfleet anymore, but good plan
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Post by Elron on Jan 6, 2007 1:11:54 GMT
I thought Enterprise NX-01 used nuclear warheads.
Starfleet torpedoes are far more advanced than nukes because matter/antimatter warheads result in the complete conversion of matter to energy, rather than the partial conversion achieved in thermonuclear devices.
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Post by isis on Jan 6, 2007 10:22:50 GMT
The nuclear warheads could be used as a sorta shrapnel type thing
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2007 17:16:48 GMT
lol
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Post by cptjeff on Jan 15, 2007 23:22:13 GMT
yeah, but with shields they wouldn't even make a dent. I'll stick with Photon and Quantum torpedoes myself. If you want to try and attack my ship with one of those things, be my guest. I'll be waiting with a Photon torpedo or two.
What about a subspace weapon? The law can be changed....
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Post by Elron on Jan 16, 2007 13:55:09 GMT
That law will definitely not be changed. Elron did his PhD in Subspace Mechanics, so he knows a thing or two about the unpredictable nature of the technology.
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Post by isis on Jan 16, 2007 17:41:52 GMT
you could reinforce the hull and use the ship itself as a battering ram
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Post by Elron on Jan 16, 2007 20:13:30 GMT
Why is everyone so determined to destroy this ship?!
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Post by isis on Jan 16, 2007 21:30:05 GMT
coz its gonna get blown up anyways
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2007 21:31:55 GMT
On whose authority?
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Post by isis on Jan 16, 2007 21:41:09 GMT
whoever the captain person is or the FAdm?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2007 21:45:06 GMT
They aren't going to let you, or anyone else for that matter, blow up the ship.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2007 21:45:59 GMT
It's not on anyone's authority, it's just that the odds are stacked in favour of it getting blown up sooner or later. Look at the Victory, we're on our fourth version already, and we're considering blowing this one up just to stay ahead of everyone else.
On a more serious note, a reinforced hull isn't a bad idea. I recommend a neutronium/rodinium alloy if you want to use it as a battering ram.
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Post by cptjeff on Jan 17, 2007 20:30:47 GMT
Let's steer away from the battering ram idea... And I was joking about subspace weapons, so don't take that as a serious idea.
This ship will be manned by a responsible crew made up of people ho have a tendency to not blow things up in their simming.... Or else I'll hunt people down with he fleets Newest ship! (age, not active service)
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Post by isis on Jan 17, 2007 21:45:39 GMT
I think we should "borrow" something from the romulans
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Post by cptjeff on Jan 18, 2007 1:49:44 GMT
Like?
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Post by isis on Jan 18, 2007 8:19:13 GMT
a cloak or their version of the tri-cobalt torpedo
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Post by jared on Jan 19, 2007 19:35:02 GMT
Why though? The Federation could build cloak but do not because of a treaty. Likewise, quantum torpedoes are sufficient, so no need to earn the emnity of the Romulans forever by stealing from them.
I suggest something more unusual. Since shields are impossible to beam through, why not use shielded boarding capsules or jetbikes? It's been shown that one ship can use their shields to overcome another's by fusing the shield bubbles (the only really good explanation for ramming attacks being as successful as they are) so a large enough vehicle could be fitted with its own shield for exactly this reason. It wouldn't stand a chance against a ship's phasers, but phasers can't target something as small as a motorcycle sized vechicle and have trouble with shuttles. Assume anything the size of a shuttle would be more manouevrable. This would also negate the problem of the boarding ship having to drop their own shields.
Also, a new class of ship would require its own test rig shuttle design. Namely, the only good explanation for the shuttle classes unique to the ship classes (Defiant and Voyager's spacially inefficiently designed one) is that they're used for testing new ideas without having to endanger the entire ship. The more they resemble the parent ship, the better. Vesuvius has one (assuming they haven't broken it) which has three pairs of nacelles, two of which are only there to mimic the warp signature for warp testing.
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Post by cptjeff on Jan 19, 2007 21:31:02 GMT
they don't require a new shuttle, and the shuttles are developed independently of the ships. (the famous exception being the Delta Flayer) For example, the Defiant's shuttle was added after the ship- it didn't come first. The Chaffee was a later addition. It was designed as a shuttle with the same mission profile that the defiant might use- they would be on other ships as well.
And We should work into a story that the treaty was changed and the federation can have cloaks now....
And the Federation has Tri-Coblalt torpedoes too- but they're not common and are not often equipped. no need to use romulan tech when the federation can do it themselves.
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