Roll Call - 93.03

[Crystal Rose]

*eats carrot stick* Thanks Admiral.

I seem to remember Zenith being quite popular as a class / prototype ship name.

I think all the suggestions need to be fished out of their threads, which have got very long in some cases, and put in a poll. I'm happy to do some fishing...) The quote should probably be by type of quote first.

Now it is quite possible some of these have been discussed before.
Other possible topics: Cloaks, MVAM (how many bits?), primarily exploration/defence?, general shape (ie modified saucer or classic shape)?, Approx size (in terms of crew)....

[Deleted]

Please head to section47.proboards18.com/index.cgi?board=RD&action=display&thread=1142721607&page=2 reply #54 to see what I managed to apprise from the various threads....we need to work on those things that I mentioned in there.

S. Smith (Capt)

[Crystal Rose]

Okay, sorry completely missed that thread.

So discussion is: phasers, torpedoes, cloak, separation and internal layout.

276m is a tall ship. so I guess were talking about 60-80 decks? Has this been decided on?

With the size of the ship MVAM could afford to be more than three pieces although i think it would be useful if it didn't have to break into all the bits at the same time. ie top part separates and leaves rest of ship intact which could further separate later if needed.

[markoramius]

Just looked at your post Steve... it seems like a big ship. Nice specifications thus far... so we need to decide on # of decks, whats on each deck etc... Also we have to decide on weaponary - personally I wouldnt go for a cloaking device but thats just me.

So how do we do this, do we discuss each item in this thread and try and reach a consensus?

[Deleted]

Well, last time I checked, the size of the ship (all three dimensions) is going to be different that what has been stated...that is a large ship...perhaps too large, so we are going to tune it down a notch or two.

[connorstephens]

So maybe we should just agree on the basics first. Then we can tweak, push, pull, and generally hammer out specifics based on the design we choose.

This is what I'm thinking:

Ship Class
Ship Dimensions
Primary Function
Armor and Weaponry

If we can at least agree on these, we have a good beginning.

[Deleted]

Cloak isnt allowed, didnt starfleet sign something prohibiting them from the use of cloaks?

[connorstephens]

That's what I thought too.

[lizjaneway]

Boys, boys, boys *shakes head* We agreed on ship class I thought. Isn't the ship class going to be Zenith? I think we need ship name instead of class.

I would think the Flagship would be needed for the diplomatic missions carried out by Admiral Nova and those of his staff.

I think it was agreed upon that amblative armor would be used. As for weapons, I like the Doctor's idea of a photonic cannon just in emergency cases, then I think normal phasers and photon torpedoes for every day defense.

[Deleted]

For what has and what hasn't been decided upon, PLEASE read the post that I linked to up above....it states where we are at.

Just to clarify....yes, Zenith is the class name, but we have no ship name as yet. And yes, ablative armour would be used also.

[Deleted]

roberts said:

Cloak isnt allowed, didnt starfleet sign something prohibiting them from the use of cloaks?

Begging the lieutenant's pardon...but my beautiful ship has a cloak...three of them to be exact. Mark II phase cloaks, at that. And we have a story around it to back it up too.

[Deleted]

I think we should leave off the cloaking device. It would cause a lot of political tension if the flagship of the Federation had a cloak, and it wouldn't be too long before a way to detect that cloak was found.



To make things simpler, no one needs to click on the Captain's link anymore...


"Ok, so here is what we have so far:

Length: 1284 meters
Width: 958 meters
Height: 276 meters

Seeing as nothing else was posted in regards to an agreement of changing this, I am posting these dimensions up assuming they are still what we are going to use.

Of the poll vote that was taken to determine the name of the class that the ship will be, there were only 34 votes...but it appeared that Zenith was a clear winner for the class name! There wasn't a final decision on whether the ship name would carry the same name as the class.

The ship will be a very powerful ship, yet still geared towards exploration.

There has been no decision yet about the design of the new ship. There are a few different designs floating about, but as it stands, we haven't agreed on anything yet.

As for facilities, not much has been agreed on, again. Once more, a lot of ideas were discussed, but as nothing was actually consented to, there isn't much to go on. The only thing I can see that was agreed on was having a CO and FO office/room just off the bridge, like the Ready Room is. Also, having an officer lounge located just off the bridge as well, for the relief crew to use when they are waiting, for example. There will also be a two-storey Sickbay.

I think is was generally agreed that the ship would only have a cloaking device IF we came up with a good feasible reason as to why we would have it. There was no real discussion as to what phaser mark we would use, or how many strips/arrays, etc...and no definite agreement on what type/s of torpedoes the ship would carry, although Photon and Quantum are a likely bet.

The ship WILL separate, and will not have landing capability. It will also utilise certain technology from VOY 'Endgame'...ie, the ablative armour.

The motto for the ship hasnt been decided on either...we just need to narrow down the many choices we have and actually put it in place.

The ship will have impulse, warp AND Quantum Slipstream drives. (The QSD will be a "Dauntless-class Mark IIa Quantum Slipstream Drive")

So far....not a lot has actually been finalised. There are probably a few more points raised here and there, but nothing major, and nothing else decided on. Now I for one want to change that and get this project moving again."

-Captain Smith

[Deleted]

Would you like to join the Omicron team Commodore? If not, then could you kindly leave it up to us to work on these threads?

Thanks in advance.

[Deleted]

I merely answered a question captain...last I checked that was still allowed.

[lizjaneway]

Okay, I had a bit of time on my hands yesterday and was really bored. So I went ahead and created a drawing of a ship idea. It isn't the best, and probably far from perfect.

[Deleted]

Fine I was wrong, but I am sure that it was illegal for starfleet to use cloak because of some treaty they signed.

[Deleted]

It was/is....but some people seem to have gotten around that. I personally don't like the idea of having a cloak anyway....in my view it becomes too convenient.

[markoramius]

I wouldn't really want a cloak either... I dont think it would be in keeping with Star Trek anyways.

I'm really looking forward to getting my teeth into this, can I suggest we all go away and think about what Capt. Smith put forth in Swammerman's post above - then come back here and post, we seem to be going over old ground.

[Elron]

Good idea Marko. I suggest we move onto new threads too. I'll consider moving all the threads currently on the board to a folder/subboard, so long as Smith's summary contains all the valid points and decisions. That way we can still reference what was discussed and agreed previously without getting completely lost amidst all the different threads.

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[lizjaneway]

I was testing a new program. This is the first thing I made with it.

i33.photobucket.com/albums/d93/lizzyhawk/Missallenous/Ship.jpg

As for a name, maybe Shadowglider.

[Deleted]

whys it gone quite all of a sudden :/

[Crystal Rose]

My guess is no one knows quite where to start.

In regard to the pictures above:
the square saucer is interesting but not that flowy, starfleet ships always seem to look graceful.
the other one is more interesting.

[connorstephens]

How about Nightshade? Or ShadowHawk?

[Deleted]

nah, thoose names are more for black ops and starfleet intelligance.

This is wiered, we have gone from disscussin cloak, to suddenly discussin names.

Oh and as for cloak, it was made Illegal for the federation to use, the treaty was called Treaty of Algernon, I recomend removing it commodore

[Deleted]

There have been ways around it.....for example, both Defiants on DS9 had cloaks!