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Post by leopotter on Oct 21, 2007 4:09:07 GMT
OK, i have some proposals on some new fighters for our wing here. From the link you gave us for the fighters and such, from those dates would make those fighters to be over THIRTY years old. I think in all likelihood, we'd have newer, better fighters, with the ways technologies change. But atm, i Don't know who to ask or to show my proposals for new fighters, so I'll just post some up here. VF-19 Hornet Interceptor/Space Superiority Fighter Dimensions: Height: 2.89 meters Width: 14.56 meters Length: 19.13 meters Structure: Duranium/Ablative Armor Matrix. Crew Complement: Crew: 1 Warp Speeds: Cruising: Warp Factor 2.5 Maximum: Warp Factor 5 Emergency: Warp Factor 6 (for 6 hours) Armament: 2 Type U Micro Pulse Phasers 3 Type V Phaser Array 2 Micro Torpedo Launchers Quantum: 10 2 Hardpoints for Fullsized Torpedoes Shielding System: Light Shielding System Deck Layout: 1 - Cockpit, Emergency Transporter Maneuverability: Very High (perhaps one of the best) Impulse Range: Medium to Long Warp Range: Short to Moderate The VF-19 Hornet is the answer to the Interceptor Development Program, as the Modified Valkyres are being pulled from service. Her large impulse engines help to give her long non-warp ranges making the VF-19 Hornet the perfect Carrier Interceptor. Or: Eagle InterceptorClass Information classification Interceptor crew: 1 Propulsion: impulse engines: 2 warp nacelles: 2 cruising speed: Warp 2.5 maximum speed: Warp 5 emergency speed: Warp 6 (3 Hours) Weapons and Shields: phasers: Weapons cache on wing tips; 2 micro Type-U Pulse Phasers 2 Type-VII Phaser banks micro torpedoes: launchers 1 Mark II Quantum, forward casings 6 shields and armor grid-projected (TDS)/distance-projected, duranium with added ablative armor matrix Dimensions length 6 meters width 8.5 meters height 3.8 meters (2.8 meters with gear up) Other Equipment transporters 1 emergency Those are just two that i hope people might like, if people don't like them, or disagree, i can always find more........... But if anyone knows where i should actully submit these, please tell. EDIT: Renaming them
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Post by imad on Oct 21, 2007 15:39:41 GMT
I like the Eagle Interceptor the best, something about her lines remind me of the A-10. One thing I like about both of them though is the warp capabilities. They are bigger ships but instead of having forty unnecessary Kaneda class fighters we could just have 15 or 20 of these.
Could we modify the Eagle to fit two people? A RIO could sit behind and slightly above the pilot
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Post by leopotter on Oct 21, 2007 17:00:07 GMT
Hmm....... I think it could probably fit another person, if you increased the length by another meter or two, to add room for the RIO and the extra few systems he'd require for himself, or extra power.
Yeah, instead of having forty fighters, why don't we have 24? 4 Squadrons of six. 12 Eagles, 12 VF-19s.
Viper Squadron: 6 Strike Eagle Starfighters
Ghost Squadron: 6 VF-19 Super Hornet Starfighters
Angel Squadron: 6 Eagle Starfighters
Raptor Squadron: 6 VF-19 Hornet Starfighters
I'm working on an enhanced version of the VF-19, if we do use them, i think it would be good if we removed 26 fighters and replace the rest with these.
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Post by leopotter on Oct 21, 2007 18:36:10 GMT
Imad and I thought of something else...well Imad did, but i designed them. He thought that we might need some SAR(search and Rescue) ships to go and get stranded pilots and crew if they lose their craft, and the ship is unable to go get them. A shuttle would be too big slow and weak if brought up against fighters, so, what if you took a a fighter, and made it into an ambulance so to speak. Here it is. Technical Specifications for Osprey Multi-role Fighter Category: Multi-Role Fighter Crew: 4 1 Pilot 1 Gunner 2 Medics/Intel officers 2 Passengers Speed: Cruising: Warp 2 Maximum: Warp 4 Emergency (Warp Jump): Warp 7 (10 minutes) Weaponry: 2 Type U Pulse Phasers 2 Type V phaser Emitters 1 Micro Torpedo Tube: 4 Micro Quantum Torpedoes Length 23 meters Height 5.1 meters Width 19.7 meters Defensive systems: Ablative Armour / Light Shielding System The original Osprey Fighter had a crew of 2, 1 pilot and 1 Gunner who sat in the cockpit. But behind the Cockpit, in case of emergencies, there were room for an extra 10 people in tight accommodations. The Multi-Role Version has cut down the max people inside from 12 down to 6, while filling the rest of the room where the other 6 people could sit with Life Support and other Medical items needed to help treat downed pilots or any resuced person or persons. Its now crewed by the Pilot, RIO, and 2 medics, and has room for 2 rescuees. If a pilot has ejected during a dogfight, their fighter is gone, and the ship is too busy to come and get them, and theres a fight going on around them, the SAR Bird would go in, lower its shields for the time to beam them into the med bed in the back, and get out of there, if engauged by another fighter, it would be able to fight itself out. Essentially, it can fight its way into a fight, rescue the person, and fight its way out of the fight. Instead of having to detail fighters to escort rescue craft, it is its own escort. The SAR birds can be used on many different types of missions, not just rescuing downed pilots, but anyone else for that matter. It can also be used as an Intel gathering craft as well. In those cases the medical gear would be taken out, and Intel gear put in, and the medics would be replaced by 2 Intel officers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2007 1:49:25 GMT
Sounds good to me. Having updated, and diversified, fighters makes sense for the circumstances. I'm already checking on permission to do this. The best thing to have done about proposing new fighters would have been to PM me about it, by the way.
My question is, if you include the Osprey as well, how many, and how would it fit in the organization of the rest?
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Post by leopotter on Oct 22, 2007 3:30:13 GMT
*Files away for future refference.* OK, i'll remeber that.
Simple, I don't think we'll need more than six of them, so we'll have 5 squadrons of six instead of 4.
Viper Squadron: 6 Strike Eagle Starfighters
Ghost Squadron: 6 VF-19 Super Hornet Starfighters
Lightning Squadron: 6 Eagle Starfighters
Raptor Squadron: 6 VF-19 Hornet Starfighters
Angel Squadron: 6 Osprey Multi-Role Starfighters
That good???
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Post by sfcmradj1 on Oct 22, 2007 3:56:30 GMT
Good specification guys, and i think (if approved of course), these fighters will be a good addition to the Nevada and dont worry commander, the process of requesting these fighter to be updated to the Nevada will go through the correct ordering process unless you can speed the process up . I cant wait to see these babies flying around giving my Marines some firing powers.
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Post by imad on Oct 22, 2007 5:15:54 GMT
Plus we're going to keep some of the Kaneda class fighters around, maybe 4, as trainers. Which reminds me, if any of the crew would like to take flight training please don't hesitate to ask. I would be happy to joint post flight training with anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2007 15:51:46 GMT
Good specification guys, and i think (if approved of course), these fighters will be a good addition to the Nevada and dont worry commander, the process of requesting these fighter to be updated to the Nevada will go through the correct ordering process unless you can speed the process up . Actually I'm already talking to my superiors on this one, so yeah I'm speeding up. However, it's being recommended to me that perhaps you might choose just one type of fighter for the Fighter Wing. I think it might help this get approved.
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Post by imad on Oct 22, 2007 16:28:51 GMT
Then we'll go with the Eagle for the fighter wings.
Can we still have the Osprey for S&R though?
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Post by leopotter on Oct 22, 2007 21:51:57 GMT
If we're going to go with the eagle only then, could we still have 2 varients of it? A single Seat version, and a two seat version, or how i labled them above, Eagle's and Strike Eagle's? I'm working on the specs for the 2 seat version, or the strike configuration.
And i think the Osprey would be a good all around addition to the wing, since its good for rescues, intel gathering, and covert insertians and extertions.
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Post by Zhukarak Hrisvalar on Oct 23, 2007 11:08:30 GMT
I personally would second the Osprey, and then two versions of the same fighter. A single-seater for regular fighter roles, then the dual-seater for training and perhaps long-range recon with a special electronics package for this (hence the second seat).
I like the idea of the fighter wing and because of it am thinking about implementing it on the Jefferson. So make this inception proud as I'll be watching to see what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2007 5:40:14 GMT
Just to let you all know, this isn't being ignored.
With my transition to Acting Captain of this ship, I'm pretty busy trying to get things up and running, while adjusting to the new position. I plan on reading through this proposal in the next week or two, and making formal inqueries to the Squad CO (Hrisvalar), Fleet CO (Lin), and CSS on what they suggest and how to get this plan implemented.
For this mission, however, we will only *tongue in cheek* have our current compliment of 40 Kaneda-class fighters.
If you don't see any status updates on my part after two weeks, give me a poke. I don't want to let this slide.
Thanks!
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Post by imad on Nov 7, 2007 18:54:42 GMT
AARGH!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2007 18:38:27 GMT
Before I submit the request to CSS, I would like to see if this is acceptable. I gathered the input from you all above, including Brigadier Hrisvalar, and came up with the following:
Ghost Squadron: 6 Strike Eagle Starfighters Angel Squadron: 6 Strike Eagle Starfighters
Viper Squadron: 6 Eagle Starfighters Raptor Squadron: 6 Eagle Starfighters
Lightning Squadron: 6 Osprey Multi-Role Starfighters
Total: 30 fighters
Currently we have 40 Kaneda class fighters... they would be replaced by this new fleet. Does this sound correct? Marines, any input? I'm going to send this off tomorrow (Monday Nov-12) if I do not hear anything.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2007 7:34:41 GMT
I have received no replies, so I sent the information in the post above to the Fleet Rep to pass on to CSS. Cross your fingers
Nack
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Post by sfcmradj1 on Nov 13, 2007 8:40:51 GMT
thank you Captain for submiting the request, now we will wait and see if we can get them soon
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Post by leopotter on Nov 14, 2007 1:31:04 GMT
Yes, thats good, but the squadron names will change up a bit though, they havn't been finalized yet, but otherwise, yeah, thats correct.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 15:03:34 GMT
Just an update:
I have just received word from the Fleet Rep that I am able to create the new fighters without CSS approval. I am a bit incredulous on that statement, since other sources told me I needed approval (including a CSS member), which is why I went through the red tape in the first place. The constitution says that we need CSS approval to create ships... but since these are not 'fleet ships' it may be different. I am attempting to get clarification.
But - if it's true, the ships are as good as ours . I'll keep you posted.
Get ready to start flying fast, Jamil and Leo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 23:14:37 GMT
It seems we have the ships at my word.
Ghost Squadron: 6 Strike Eagle Starfighters Angel Squadron: 6 Strike Eagle Starfighters
Viper Squadron: 6 Eagle Starfighters Raptor Squadron: 6 Eagle Starfighters
Lightning Squadron: 6 Osprey Multi-Role Starfighters
Total: 30 fighters
A big thanks to Q2 who put up with my constant nagging.
One of you wanted to rename the squadrons, but I rather like the names... Ghost and Angel go together.. Viper and Raptor do as well. If there are better reasons to change them, though, we can. Send me a PM in the next week before we leave Lenore IV.
I am thinking we may have a chase on our hands... and Starfleet will want us to have new ships... so we'll kindly trade in our old ones on the way to search for our 'Brain'.
Imad, where are you man? We have your ships finally!
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