Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2006 22:05:14 GMT
For many months now, I and my brother Paul have been locked away in my room creating this starship. We have very much based it on the Soverien but with never before seen Ideas, and they look to have worked if you ask me. (He used to software from collage, and I no longer have it so don't exepect such High class models again from me) (feel free to voice opions on the ship) I have posted this because I would like to see this ship give a class name, and if popular enough added to the site. I am currently creating a new shuttle type to go with it. Serenity (alleged to be used by another site) img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=circe3v4pp.jpg
|
|
Carl Torek
Command Staff ..
Site Executive Officer Ranks Officer
Fleet Admiral
UTRINQUE PARATUS
Registered: Jun 17, 2006 22:34:35 GMT
Posts: 6,214
|
Post by Carl Torek on Jun 23, 2006 22:14:11 GMT
Ensign Roberts. I'm going to go for 'Vanguard' as the class of vessel your ship should be called. Advanced research, Radical design, Tho some of the features have been explored and utilized in one way or another, IMO, 'Vanguard' sounds just right. Carl Torek.
|
|
jared
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by jared on Jun 23, 2006 22:31:31 GMT
That's a very good ship. Sturdy, businesslike and simple. No part of it is especially vulnerable to attack and the new design would confuse enemies looking for the bridge.
On the shuttle; the only reason for having class specific shuttles is for testing. Basically you make the shuttle look as much like the mothership as possible and then when you have a new idea you can test it on the shuttle and not endanger the whole crew. It being functional is an obvious bonus but not necessary, as shown by Voyager's class specific shuttles which are inferior to other types. Given that, how about a bulkier shuttle with the deflector on top to mimic the unique class natures?
And I think if I ever had a ship I'd want that one.
|
|
cptjeff
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by cptjeff on Jun 24, 2006 1:55:10 GMT
check the class names to mnake sure they haven't been used. while it's not a rule, its generally a nice thing to respect other people's ideas.
|
|
kosh0darmek
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by kosh0darmek on Jun 24, 2006 1:59:43 GMT
she be nice ship man
|
|
Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2006 11:46:32 GMT
Physical Specifications -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Type: Cruiser/warship Length 1,033 m Beam 300 m Draft 150 m Displacement 9,500,000 mt
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crew Complement -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Command Staff 100 Engineering/Technical 300 Science/Research 100 Security/Tactical 200 Marine 200 (max. 400) Support 200 (including Medical)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total 1,500
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Propulsion Systems -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Warp Drive Type 4 x 705-GIWPS Warp Nacelles 2 x 300-GIWPS Warp Nacelles Power Core 2 x CMAPC-900 Warp Cores 1 x CMAPC-208 Plasma Core Impulse System 8 x MILSP-Deuterium-8 Impulse Coils 4 x DK-2 Induction Coils D-Warp 2 x TIDES Nodes
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Resources -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cluster-Core Network (C-Core) 92 Core Clusters 44 semi-autonomous dedicated pairs 264 co-processor backups
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Armaments -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hull Mounted Phaser Type XI 12 Banks Range 300,000 km Locations - (Upper Section) Forward Dorsal 270 Strip Upper, Forward Dorsal 270 Strip Lower, Ventral 270 Strip, Aft Dorsal Point
Locations - (Lower Section) Forward Point Upper, Forward Point Lower Ventral 270 Strip, Aft Dorsal 90 Strip Aft Point Forward, Dorsal 90 Strip *, Port 180 Strip, Starboard 180 Strip Type PII 5 banks of 2 pulse phasers Range 200,000 km Locations - (Upper Section) Forward Port, Forward Starboard
Locations - (Lower Section) Aft Port, Aft Starboard, Forward Type CII 1 Phaser Cannon Range 1,500,000 km Locations - (Lower Section) Forward Photon Torpedo Launcher Type I 3 banks of Positron inducers Range 200,000 km Locations - (Upper Section) Dorsal 360 Strip
Locations - (Lower Section) Forward 90 Strip, Ventral 360 Strip Photon Torpedo Launcher Mark IV Flux 4 Launchers Range 2,000,000 km Locations - (Upper Section) Forward
Locations - (Lower Section) Forward Port, Forward Starboard, Aft
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tractor System -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tractor Beam Type XXXI 4 Emitters Locations - secondary aft ventral, primary aft dorsal
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Defensive Systems -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Auto-modulated High Capacity Regenerative Shield System, Total Capacity 3,915,000 TeraJoules
Heavy Duranium/Tritanium Double Hull Plus 18cm Ablative Armor
High Level Structural Integrity Field
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shuttlebays & Shuttle Craft -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shuttlebay 1: (Upper Hull) 3 Small Shuttles 2 Marine Dropships
Shuttlebay 2: (Lower Hull) 5 Large Shuttles 5 Cargo Shuttles
|
|
Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2006 12:01:09 GMT
|
|
isis
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by isis on Jun 24, 2006 16:58:23 GMT
that only used for admirils and such people
|
|
Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2006 17:26:32 GMT
Oh well, not any more it's not lol
|
|
jared
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by jared on Jun 24, 2006 17:31:01 GMT
Also it's only a possible future one, not an actual definite design. Given how inefficient it actually is, I'd doubt any enigneer would seriously design it for a military organisation since it is essentially a sports car design.
On shields; whilst shields can be made to be multi-phasic, multi-phase shields render the phasers unable to fire since they have to fire through the shields. This is done by setting the frequency of the phasers exactly 180 degrees out of sync with the shields. Since multi-phasic have multiple frequencies, the phasers can't penetrate them.
|
|
Matthew Reynolds
Rear Admiral
"It's good to have an end to a journey towards; but it is the journey that matters in the end."
Registered: Apr 28, 2005 20:58:32 GMT
Posts: 2,759
|
Post by Matthew Reynolds on Jun 24, 2006 17:40:35 GMT
Well the ship looks really really nice and if it ever comes to the fleet it will be a great addition.
|
|
Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2006 17:44:01 GMT
heres a new class for you how bout the raptor class
|
|
Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2006 18:50:06 GMT
I like the Raptir class idea, if I could add it I would
|
|
Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2006 18:51:21 GMT
When the class name has been sorted, I will send a request to ONE and ask him if it can be added to the Fleet, on if I could serve aboard it. lol
|
|
davidramsey
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by davidramsey on Jun 24, 2006 18:52:47 GMT
Well, the Nevada just blew up ... so you might get your ship to be the next flagship of the first fleet beta squadron ...
|
|
Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2006 19:03:37 GMT
whoa, the nevada was destroyed, im going having a look.
thanks I hope it does become the new flagship
|
|
Carl Torek
Command Staff ..
Site Executive Officer Ranks Officer
Fleet Admiral
UTRINQUE PARATUS
Registered: Jun 17, 2006 22:34:35 GMT
Posts: 6,214
|
Post by Carl Torek on Jun 24, 2006 21:45:33 GMT
'Raptor Class' sounds good but kinda bring's the Raptor's from Jurassic Park to mind ... Intelligent, stealthy, but essentially, Ruthless killing machines ... Doesn't sound too much like the ship you are describing to me So i think i'll stick with my 1st choice of Vanguard.
|
|
Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2006 0:11:01 GMT
you got a point i think ur right maybe i will creat my own ship and class it raptor
hight speeds, stealth, phaseic shilding, multi warp core the ablity to mimic other ships warp signature , holographic masking tech , techno organic hull, the works what do u guys think
|
|
davidramsey
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by davidramsey on Jun 25, 2006 0:16:43 GMT
I think it sounds good ... but how will you compensate for the multi-phasic shields/phaser problem Reman mentioned before?
I think you could create a phaser/shield system that could be made synchronous ... so that the random shield frequency could simultaneously be sent to the phasers or something like that.
|
|
Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2006 0:54:34 GMT
sweet dude i think u just solved that problem thumbs up to u man that might just work
|
|
davidramsey
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by davidramsey on Jun 25, 2006 0:57:04 GMT
A lot could go wrong with a system like that ... it would be a good idea to come up with a contengency plan ... in case such things mess up you don't want to be caught with your pants down ... so to speak.
|
|
jared
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by jared on Jun 25, 2006 10:12:05 GMT
To Ramsey; multi phasic doesn't have one alternating frequency since that would still have the same problems that normal shields do when in usual usage. Multi phasic was only used to shield the ship from radiation, not in a battle situation. Even when a ship could use them in battle it did not. This is because it in fact uses three frequencies at the same time to avoid any point at which the reading is 0 and the shield is effectively off. Since you can't make the phasers match three frequencies as there is no 0 point, they can't fire through the shields.
To Maverick; organic hulls are the easiest to damage and whilst can be made to slowly heal themselves of the smaller wounds, engineers with welding torches can do it far quicker on a metal hull. Think about it like this; would you rather go into battle naked or with as much armour as possible?
|
|
davidramsey
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by davidramsey on Jun 25, 2006 10:30:36 GMT
Ok, on the second point, you're right. However, if you were going to use the Multi phasic shields in a battle situation, how would you compensate for the shields? There must be a solution ... remember you are working with figurative technology in the trek universe, although it is bound by the general rules of science ... there is a lot of guess work involved. If you, with an engineer's mind set, could come up with a solution, what would it be?
|
|
Deleted
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2006 12:16:50 GMT
|
|
jared
Guest
Registered: Dec 3, 2024 16:59:43 GMT
|
Post by jared on Jun 25, 2006 12:24:21 GMT
First off, being able to make the phasers go through the shields is impossible so that's a dead end.
The best option would be to be able to alter the shield geometry to open small holes in it to fire through as they do in Star Wars, but the Trek shields can't be manipulated like that and the way the phasers fire long beams makes it impractical anyway.
The best option would be to bring the shields closer to the ship so that they are only a few yards above hull and to mount the weapons on raised areas. Then to fire you contract the shields, fire through the hole that's made by the raised area and expand again just after firing. It would require more energy and precise timing and have the weakness that the weapons would be exposed at that point. However since Starfleet ships have easily disabled systems anyway the risk isn't much greater than usual.
A second option if you had a ship large enough to produce the energy to support it would be to have multi-phasic close to the hull with raised weapons platforms and then a standard shield outside of that. However I think that might need a ship twice the size of anything yet used by the Federation which would have the problems stated in the Flagship:size/layout thread.
|
|